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Rob Baxter's avatar

A system which calls for unlimited growth on a planet with finite resources is inherently ecologically unsustainable. #China is far from perfect, but it has the correct idea in terms of effectively addressing the existential threat that is #climatechange

Paul Rubin's avatar

China went from smog-filled to global green leader b/c the state planned it. Central planning sets use-value goals, using the market as a tool for development. The US oligarchy has no plan beyond propagandize, consolidate and bomb anyone who resists.

Virginia C's avatar

Important comparison to the nations in the global South that DON'T have monetary sovereignty. I'm reminded that formal political independence is not freedom

Zeta Violet's avatar

China always ends up winning because they dont care about beating anyone else, they just care about doing the best they can

Toni Jansson's avatar

Everything China is doing to improve the lives of its citizens and to improve the environment through green energy development can be done in the US. It’s not being done here because these improvements aren’t profitable.

Austin's avatar

"however identical our enemies, national liberation and social revolution are not exportable commodities; they are, and increasingly so every day, the outcome of local and national elaboration, essentially determined and formed by the historical reality of each people, and carried to success by the overcoming of the internal contradictions between the various categories characterising this reality."- Amilcar Cabral

Martin Koslowsky's avatar

Great episode in general. However, I did find the section on constructed markets to be somewhat confusing; if you do have the guest back on at some point I would consider asking him to elaborate on this topic, perhaps with some concrete examples.

I will nitpick with you regarding central planning under capitalism, which does exist in the United States - the two entities that engage in it that I can think of being Wall Street and the Pentagon (in other words not who you would want).

One of the consequences of living in a finite ecosystem is that China will have to cap its material use (and therefore also economic growth) at some point as well; it will be interesting to see how the Chinese approach this problem, especially given its potential to cause international rifts between different players.